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Why iXsystems bought PC-BSD

By Mayank Sharma on October 13, 2006 (8:00:00 AM)

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PC-BSD is a desktop-oriented distribution that masks the stability of the FreeBSD kernel behind an easy-to-use package. Its graphical system installer and point-and-click PBI package management system have been drawing in users who've never tried a BSD-based operating system before. This week the project was acquired by iXsystems, a high-end enterprise hardware solution provider. While the community is expressing skepticism of the move, the developers of PC-BSD and iXsystems both say that this partnership can only take the distribution forward.

Kris Moore, founder and lead developer of PC-BSD, has been working on the project in his free time since early 2005. Thanks to the help of several volunteer developers and enthusiasts, including language coordinator Charles-Andre Landemaine, PC-BSD has an active forum board and can be installed in more than 50 languages.

Moore says that things will only get better. "I will now be able to work full-time on the project. This will help us out greatly, since the project is growing and needs more attention than it did in the early days." Talking about the PC-BSD roadmap, Moore says, "The roadmap still stands, however with me working full-time, things should get done quicker, and I may be able to start development on some of the more ambitious portions of PC-BSD."

He also suggests that now PC-BSD will be able to help support its other developers as well. But Landemaine, who also hosts and owns the PBIDir, an online repository of PC-BSD applications, is happy to continue on his own steam. "I help in the project as a hobby. If there is a monetary transfer, it will be more from my part to the project as a donation, but I have no plan to ask anything."

Discussing the news on the PC-BSD forum, several users wondered if PC-BSD would now be split into two branches -- a community-supported and a company-supported distribution. "There are no plans on making a 'commercial' version of PC-BSD, or getting rid of the normal Free version. The project is still open source, BSD licensed, and the acquisition shouldn't affect it in any way," Moore says. He points out that the project Web site will stay online along with the forums and free PBIs.

In fact, Moore has plans to further widen the user base by offering fee-based support to users that might need it. "We hope this will help PC-BSD grow, especially in the commercial sectors."

Moore isn't the only one feeling enthusiastic about the deal. Matt Olander, CTO of iXsystems, is equally upbeat. "Increasing the adoption rate of FreeBSD and PC-BSD will only benefit our business and the BSD communities in the long run," Olander says.

Where will PC-BSD fit into iXsystems' high performance computing clusters, blade servers, rackmount servers, and storage solutions? Olander points out that the company also sells higher-end workstations to many customers. "While it's not our primary business focus, I could certainly see PC-BSD becoming a viable alternative for company desktop deployments."

Olander is sure that the more users that are familiar with and using BSD, the more likely that we'll see vendors supporting BSD with drivers and documentation. "Focusing on the desktop-friendly PC-BSD introduces new users to the fact that FreeBSD is a robust, stable, and mature operating system. If it works great on your desktop, it works even better on your servers."

Denise Ebery, marketing director at iXsystems, confirms that while the company is looking at a server and laptop version of PC-BSD, driving desktop adoption of BSD appears to be beneficial in the long run. "If you use PC-BSD on your desktop and become familiar and satisfied with it, what will you recommend for use in your company's datacenter?"

Currently Moore, who's in charge of the new PC-BSD software division at iXsystems, is busy preparing the 1.3 beta version of PC-BSD. "We hope to draw on the resources of iXsystems in the development and production of PC-BSD. With their vast FreeBSD experience, we plan to take PC-BSD to new heights," Moore says.

"iXsystems has given me much freedom with regard to the project, and I will still be performing my usual activities, such as development, and releasing PC-BSD," he says. In full support of Moore, Olander adds, "His plans are our plans."

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As long as it doesn't become like Mac OS X....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 14, 2006 06:18 AM
Hey, I'm all for this, provided that the PC-BSD project doesn't end up like Mac OS X (read: proprietary). Yes, it'd be their legal right under the BSD license, but I sure hope that they don't do that.

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As long as it doesn't become noticable.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 14, 2006 08:54 AM
I wouldn't mind. At least with both (Mac OSX and now this). BSD get's the attention that just might shut up all those GPL zealots bragging how much bigger their market share is compared to the BSD's.

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like Mac OS X....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 14, 2006 07:17 PM
One more desktop OS is more competition on Microsoft.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

I hope they remember their roots and contribute something back to FreeBSD.

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like Mac OS X....

Posted by: Stumbles on October 16, 2006 09:25 AM
Why would they? Seems most companies that have globbed onto BSD code do not contribute back. I'm sure there are some that have but a guess is most don't.

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like Mac OS X....

Posted by: Joseph Cooper on October 15, 2006 05:23 AM
It's not just a legal right, that's the whole IDEA of the BSD license. That's why we use the GPL. So Linux isn't used for Mac OSX, but on the flip side, we don't have to feel bitter about companies leaching the code, causing a brain drain, or worrying about wether we get anything in return.

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As long as it doesn't become like the GPL....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 15, 2006 10:15 AM
People who use the BSD license don't feel those things. Just GPL'ers thinking they understand something they really don't.

BTW I seem to remember a certain GPL project who's members got hired. Talk about a "brain drain".

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like the GPL....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 15, 2006 10:26 AM
People who use the BSD license don't feel those things.

yes they do. Developers mention the lack of support (code contribution) from commercial entities quite frequently. That was a huge issue and sore point for SSH, remember?

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like the GPL....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 15, 2006 03:07 PM
Spot on...Just ask Theo de Raadt!

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like the GPL....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 16, 2006 02:19 AM
No, code contribution had absolutely nothing to do with it. It was simply about bottom line funding to keep the project moving at the same pace. The gpl doesn't help in that respect at all.

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like the GPL....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 16, 2006 12:40 AM
Another OSX lover who has no understanding of free and open source software. Get a grip and a real OS.

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like the GPL....

Posted by: Joseph Cooper on October 16, 2006 07:56 AM
"People who use the BSD license don't feel those things."

See: Original post.

Sheesh...

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like the GPL....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 16, 2006 12:57 PM
Yeah we saw the <a href="http://business.newsforge.com/comments.pl?sid=59605&cid=131152" title="newsforge.com">original post.</a newsforge.com> And it was wrong as <a href="http://business.newsforge.com/comments.pl?sid=59605&cid=131171" title="newsforge.com">someone else already pointed out</a newsforge.com>. So go sheesh yourself.

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like Mac OS X....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 16, 2006 07:16 PM
Whatever GPL projects get in return, it is most likely that it is not going to be money. It is going to be derived code, most likely.

On the other side, the people from PC BSD team probably received some money. And the money is something that makes the difference.

DG

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like Mac OS X....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 15, 2006 09:23 PM
Mac OS X did not end up like proprietary, it started as proprietary. There is no part of OS X that changed it's status. What was free before OS X is still free. Aplle people are not obliged in any way to share their code with anybody else. They have FREEDOM not to do it.

Some people may believe that sharing the code is positive, other may not. It is a matter of opinion, and neither ones are right or wrong.

DG

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Re:As long as it doesn't become like Mac OS X....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 17, 2006 06:34 AM
I wasn't talking about Mac OS X "ending up" proprietary. I was talking *PC-BSD* ending up like Mac OS X (read: proprietary). You are quite correct; Mac OS X itself always has been proprietary. PC-BSD, on the other hand, did not start that way, and I maintain my hope that it will remain Free.

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Great!

Posted by: Hillbilly on October 15, 2006 07:20 AM
PCBSD is a great *BSD/KDE desktop i think getting more gadgets & perifrials (xsane and/or Kooka & gphoto2) will help PCBSD a lot on the desktop/workstation end of things...

i wish good luck and prosperity to PCBSD<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

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Re:Great!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 16, 2006 12:37 AM
Amazing! This will be a great opportunity to get real BSD on the desktop space. =) Often commercial backing in the form of financing, marketing muscle and support is what is needed to bring Foss software to the fore. BSD is no exception. I applaude the effort and will extend my support.


    BTW. Its better to not mention OsX because it simply sux and is irrelavant to REAL BSD community.

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Re:Great!

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on October 17, 2006 06:38 AM
While I am primarily a GNU/Linux user, I'm not afraid one bit of using the BSD's, especially OpenBSD, when I see it's the best Free (as in Freedom) tool for the job. You are quite correct; OS X is not relevant to the real BSD community, other than perhaps the fact that Apple offered jobs to a few FreeBSD developers. And I too hope that PC-BSD is a success, for the same reason that you have stated--bringing FOSS software to the fore. The work that was done with the BSD's has benefitted us all.

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Kris Moore has done a great job

Posted by: Brian Masinick on October 16, 2006 08:40 AM
While there is always more work that can be done, Kris Moore has turned BSD into a very good system that works well, not just for the experts, but has the convenience of an easy to use system for people who may be competent, but just don't have the time to fool around with and tweak the base operating system just to get it installed with a usable desktop environment.

FreeBSD has great software in it, and I have used it before, but I have to remember each time I install it (which is not all that often) how to do it, and frequently I just don't have the time to do that all over again.

PC-BSD closes that gap nicely. I think some of the desktop friendly Linux distros do more (SimplyMEPIS 6.0 and Freespire, in particular, really attempt to set everything up, from plugins to fonts, so their system can immediately be used. PC-BSD, in its current form, does a great job with the installation, but could do more to make the desktop experience complete. Still, I am elated, because I can use a BSD system again without having to constantly wear my systems administration hat.

I first used commercial BSD UNIX systems beginning in 1982, and I have always felt that the BSD based systems, free or commercial, have among the most solid code of any systems in the world, and the free variants have kept to that tradition well. The one thing they have never really done very well is make themselves easy to use for anyone. Their defaults are excellent for the experienced coder and scientist, but are not general purpose for the rest of the community, even though the base platform would be excellent (as MacOS has proven).

Now at last we have a free option that gets us close to something reasonable, and I have an inexpensive path back to using BSD at home without having to remain current in my systems administration skills (I do project management work for a living now, not systems administration). I applaud this move and hope this helps Kris to accelerate his efforts and fill in some of the areas that could still stand additional improvements. I think he's done a great job getting this going. If I could work a full time job working on a BSD or Linux distribution and advance the cause, I would do so - I did once, but it was not a full time job, and I eventually had to abandon it so I could feed my family.

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Re:Kris Moore has done a great job

Posted by: openjeet on November 04, 2006 05:13 AM
I think Kris is smart, and ixsystems boosting up pc-bsd may be one of the reasons m$cro$0ft decided to team up with novel. B$ll Gates anounced that he was helping to make his lame product work better with linux and open office.
How long till B$ll has to got open?

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