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2003-01-01
Notice: Until recently, I preferred to download
"factory-made" executables in RPM format (something like ZIP in
MS Windows world). After getting a RPM package, a click on it
activates the program that unpack and install its content. Well,
it is great whenever your RPM has been "manufactured" for the
very similar distribution of Linux you have. If not ...
- Well, I have already had the package
xfbb-7.04-2.i386.rpm (07 August 2001), that was
running OK under RH 6.2 distro. And not only that. Its "packer",
Jose HI8GN, has explained that this package was actually compiled
and linked with utilities that came with RH 6.2 - so under that
distribution should be no problems at all.
- One day I finally decided to abandon another 4-5 year old
version of an X11 LinFBB application that I knew it
would not run under Red Hat Linux newer than 6.2 distribution. I
decided to stay with LinFBB's daemon only, so it was also the
right time to upgrade the Linux system itself. Another handy
installation that I had, was RH 7.1 and I used it. After
finishing that task, I rushed to re-install the RPM package
mentioned above (just to test if it would eventually work), but
as expected it didn't want to run.
- I had no choice but to browse web sites in order to find a
RPM package that would fit my RH 7.1 distribution. Unfortunately,
it looked that there was no one recompiled LinFBB RPM for 7.1
RedHat version. The only solution was to try with
tarballs. So, what I have downloaded from www.f6fbb.org/versions.html,
was
xd704h-src.tgz archive.
- So far - so good. Well, folks, I am not very good of
"deepest" secrets of Linux, so I was not sure where might be the
best place to unpack the archive. According the readme
file, it might be a "fbbsrc" directory, so I considered that
/usr/src would be the best location to copy archive's
fbbsrc.704h directory tree.
- Well, the fbbsrc.704h directory consists of 12 files
and 7 subdirectories, one of which is src subdirectory. As
the readme suggested a user to "goto fbbsrc/src"
directory, I concluded that /usr/src/fbbsrc.704h/src was
the right place.
- The readme also suggested to "update the variables"
at the beginning of Makefile files, but I did not do
that because I was not sure what exactly should be put in there.
So I have just left the file(s) intact.
- The next task was to run make command from the shell
and it took half a minute to be finished. The results were
several xfbb executable files that I quickly moved to
/usr/sbin directory. BTW, some people rather suggest to
run make install (instead of make), in order to
avoid multiple copying of compiled executables, but I found that
way as not functional.
- Soon after, I tried to activate xfbbd - the new
LinFBB's daemon and it seemed to work without visible
difficulties. Using a home LAN including a Windows laptop, I also
started fbbW - a LinFBB Windows client. It recognized the
daemon in a second and I've only noticed that there was
no Protus password utility running.
- According the readme, the next task should be to
"compile the xfbbC client". That operation should be done from a
place called "fbbsrc/client" but the only available directory
under /usr/src/fbbsrc.704h/src was X11.
- After clicking on its icon, I recognized the second one file
named Makefile (they have mentioned "updating" of
both Makefile files, so I hoped to reach the proper
place once again, regardless of two unfamiliar paths). Besides
that, they have also suggested to use "at least the version
2.1.37b of ax25-utils" and I found not to have something
like that installed (in the case they have possibly meant of a
suit of libax25, ax25apps and ax25tool - than it should
be OK). Anyway, then I activated make command from the
shell one more time and the result was in getting xfbbC
executable.
- As usual, xfbbC client is to be invoked from within an
xterm (or similar) command line environment. It also
seemed that it was fully functional. So far - so good.
- The next issue was to "compile the xfbbX client", but this
time a user was requested to have a version of Motif installed.
Well, what I already knew was that I haven't had any Motif
software in the box, but a couple of Lesstif RPM packages were
somewhere around. I installed them using
--force and
--nodeps options in order to avoid various
dependency 'obstacles'. In sum, Lestiff stuff has come
to its place on the hard disk.
- This one time, I did make some "updates" related to
Makefile paths and tried to run make command
from the shell (for the 3rd time now). At the first sight, it
seemed that I got no answer, because there appeared neither
xfbbX nor xfbbX_cl executables. In order to "make"
missing files, I just copied the appropriate executables from an
earlier LinFBB version (which I backup-ed before).
- Finally, I managed to activate xfbbX client without
visible problems, although I knew it was not an up-to-date
version (compared to the daemon itself). Regardless of
that detail, the GUI client worked properly.
- As I just mentioned, I also noticed that the first console
connection was without familiar {PROTUS-4.1b7} designation
(that means there was no c_filter utility running). So,
I had to check and double-check all the paths and system
directories, described in the Protus section of this mini-HOWTO.
At the first sight, it looked to me that everything was fine, but
the utility was not likely to start. Finally, I copied its main
executable into yet another system location:
/usr/lib/fbb/filter, re-started the system once again and
Protus returned back to its function.
- That was all. I am satisfied with what I have done for the
first time. What I have to do in the future, will be to check if
the procedure described in this section was the right one,
although most of the BBS's main features seemed to be active
(just like as if they were running under RH 6.2 distribution
using LinFBB packages in RPM format mentioned earlier). The only
"mystery" was how to activate some system administering tasks:
maintenance (a "housekeeping"), get user's data and other tasks
easily accessed from under WinFBB main console (for example).
Until now I haven't solved that, but that is not a real problem
because I can also run WinFBB whenever my Windows is active, and
from there I can perform sysop's tasks, using a mouse click or
like.
2004-01-03
Notice: The other day I tried to upgrade my Red Hat 7.1
distribution to Red Hat 9.0 - in order to get more up-to-date
system, being also capable to be upgraded from its original
Netscape 4.76 browser to Netscape 7.1 (In fact, the more newer
Netscape I need for other purposes - not related to FBB stuff at
all - but I have not succeeded to perform a kind of a
'browser-only' upgrade (In fact, Netscape 7.1 needs newer
Glibc and some other things not easily being upgraded
within under Red Hat 7.1). That's why I decided to upgrade the
complete Linux system - i.e. not just reinstalling it 'from
scratch'. The reason for that was I wanted to preserve my old
Netscape Messenger email directory tree etc). So, at first, I
made cca. 450 MB of free space on my / partition, hoping that
would be enough to upgrade. But, RH 9.0's setup asked for even
more 400 MB - that I couldn't made. Then I tried to make a
'fresh' installation of RH 9.0 and it also looked that I had
better supply a larger hard disk (besides that, it seemed that RH
9.0 performed a bit slower on my system than the old RH 7.1).
Finally, I made a decision to re-install RH 7.1 again.
After I did it, one of the first tasks to do was to install
LinFBB. I took some browsing in order to find something newer
than that fbbsrc.704h and I've got fbbsrc.704j
tarball from ftp://www.f6fbb.org/pub/f6fbb/distrib/linux/src
- At first, I extracted .tgz package to the
/usr/src directory. fbbsrc.704j consists of 7
subdirs and 12 files. According to its readme, at the
beginning I should 'goto fbbsrc/src directory' so I went to
/usr/src/fbbsrc.704j/src
- The readme also suggested to "update the variables"
at the beginning of Makefile files, but I just left the
file(s) intact.
- The next task was to run make command from the shell
and it took almost two minutes to be finished. The result was new
xfbb executables (clr_user, epurmess, epurwp,
fbbgetconf, maintinf, reqdir, xfbbC and xfbbd) that I quickly
moved to /usr/sbin directory.
- Then I copied fbb.conf (previously backup-ed) as well
as other config stuff that should go to /etc/ax25/fbb
directory. I have not created new directories LinFBB
should use as a 'normal' Linux-only BBS (a 'configuration tree',
a 'utilities tree' and a 'data tree' - all of which suggested by
/usr/src/fbbsrc.704j/FBBTREE file. If I haven't copied my
backup-ed fbb.conf (that, in turn, has been configured to
share config files with my WinFBB on a spare FAT16 partition) and
if I wanted to activate LinFBB's daemon before copying
my particular fbb.conf - then I had to create those
FBB-trees. In opposite, LinFBB couldn't run.
- Soon after, I tried to activate LinFBB's daemon and
it seemed to work without visible difficulties (using a temporary
home LAN with a laptop, I performed telnet xfbbd_IP_address
6300, from Windows' utility Command Prompt. It recognized the
daemon in a second and I've only noticed that there was
no Protus password utility running). The latter I solved by
copying /var/ax25/fbb/protus/c_filter file to a location
/usr/lib/fbb/filter and re-starting LinFBB. To make more tests, I
have also installed xfbbW (Windows client for LinFBB). It
also worked fine.
- According the readme, the next task should be to
"compile the xfbbX client". That operation is to be performed
from a place called "fbbsrc/client" but the only sub-directory
available under /usr/src/fbbsrc.704j/src was X11
subdir. I went there, but before trying to activate
make again, I also installed a couple of LessTif RPM
packages of version 0.93.18-1 (lesstif, lesstif-mwm,
lesstif-devel and lesstif- clients). In fact, I haven't had a
version of Motif to be installed.
- Once again, I did not make "updates" related to
Makefile paths and just tried to run make from
the shell (for the 2nd time now). In a half a minute, I got two
new executables: xfbb and xfbbX_cl. I also copied
them to /usr/sbin directory, accompanied with xfbbX
shell script. The difference to the older version 704h was that
this time I haven't had to apply the GUI client executables from
an earlier version I have backup-ed previously. That means, I
could be sure now that both server and client
parts of LinFBB are of the very same version.
- Then I entered /usr/sbin/xfbbX and soon after XFBB Setup
screen appeared, asking to enter the Callsign and Password. From
the Help menu, I checked for About and Copyright and I was
satisfied when noticed that it was 7.04j version of the Linux GUI
client.
2004-01-05
Notice: Although I managed to compile all parts of the newest
LinFBB version, I was not so happy because my Linux platform was
still the old one: Red Hat 7.1 and I wanted to have 9.0 version.
That's why I started planning what to do with the things intended
to be backup-ed before the another fresh installation of
Linux. The main trouble were the existing Netscape 4.76 email
folders, because it was obvious that the 4.76 directory structure
greatly differ from Netscape 7.1 folder tree. In fact, a user of
Netscape 4.76 email only has to make a backup copy of the hidden
.nsmail directory that, in turn, has to be restored into
the same location after the eventual next
re-installation of the Red Hat 7.1 distribution. That is a simple
task to do. But, the problem with newer Netscape 7.1 was that it
has the different directory tree when compared to its
predecessor, in addition to a slightly changed email structure.
In fact, I tried to use Netscape 4.76's .nsmail directory
with the fresh Netscape 7.1 installation and that just didn't
want to run properly. Than I looked for another way to accomplish
that task and here is how I did it.
I already knew that Netscape and Mozilla software (in particular
the newer one versions of them) converge in a way they seem to
use a similar or the very same "engine" as well as the directory
structure. Having in mind that the newer Red Hat 9.0 distribution
have not offered any version of Netscape software at all
and that Mozilla packages remained in the newer Red Hat's - I
decided to perform the following steps:
1. to make a simple upgrade from Red Hat 7.1 to Red Hat
9.0 (in order to keep the original Netscape's 4.76 .nsmail
directory structure intact, but to get an up-to-dated
version of Mozilla which comes with this particular Red Hat
upgrade and that is the same as Mozilla after the 'fresh'
installation of RH 9.0);
2. to make an import of the existing email from Netscape
4.76 to Mozilla (interestingly, the new Mozilla only supports an
import from a "Netscape 4.x");
3. to make a backup copy of the new Mozilla's directory
structure;
4. to make a 'fresh' installation of Red Hat 9.0 (in
order to ensure the stable environment that, in turn, will also
have the same new Mozilla);
5. to make a 'restore' of Mozilla's directory structure
(previously backup-ed);
6. to install the new Netscape 7.1 that, as mentioned,
will use the same directory structure as the new
Mozilla;
7. to have a choice: to run either Netscape or Mozilla
(if you get bored from either of them :-)).
Well, these steps were the nice mental exercise, but finally I
got them all running as I wanted. After I got sure that the
Internet email and browsing capabilities of my new Red Hat 9.0
became OK, I got to the beginning of LinFBB installation
procedure. Now I am not going to repeat the items from the
previous LinFBB sub-section, but what I would like to say is that
the step 4. (a couple of paragraphs above) have not brought some
X Window development packages, needed for compiling of
xfbbX. I mean, once again I managed to compile
xfbbd and xfbbC without problems, but a
make of xfbbX haven't produced the result I expected. In
fact, it returned something like this:
[root@localhost X11]# make
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -g -funsigned-char ...
In file included from ../../include/xfbb.h:34,
...
...
xfbbabtd.c: In function `DisplayInfoDialog':
xfbbabtd.c:428: warning: comparison between pointer and integer
make: *** [xfbbabtd.o] Error 1
[root@localhost X11]#
I was advised by the friendly FBB-hams that obviously something
of the X Window development stuff have been missing, so I started
to explore the RPM's I already have installed:
[root@localhost root]# rpm -qa *lesst*
lesstif-devel-0.93.18-1
lesstif-clients-0.93.18-1
lesstif-mwm-0.93.18-1
lesstif-0.93.18-1
[root@localhost root]#
- As long as I know, all these lesstif packages don't
belong to either Red Hat 7.1 nor 9.0 distribution. I have
probably downloaded them as a '3rd party' software. Besides that,
I also noticed that Red Hat 9.0 installation CD's do include the
following:
lesstif-0.93.36-3.i386.rpm
lesstif-devel-0.93.36-3.i386.rpm
openmotif21-2.1.30-8.i386.rpm
openmotif-devel-2.2.2-14.i386.rpm
- Well, a nice try to 'upgrade' to lesstif-0.93.36-3.i386.rpm
ended up with an error report on the conflicts with the existing
lesstif-0.93.18-1 - so I gave up;
- Then I entered a 'loop' of failed dependencies as follows:
lesstif-devel-0.93.36-3.i386.rpm required
XFree86-devel and lesstif = 0.93.36
XFree86-devel-4.3.0-2.i386.rpm required
fontconfig-devel and pkgconfig
fontconfig-devel-2.1-9.i386.rpm required
freetype-devel >= 2.1.2-7
- Then the following stuff got installed without complaints:
[root@localhost root]# rpm -i freetype-devel-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm
[root@localhost root]# rpm -i fontconfig-devel-2.1-9.i386.rpm
[root@localhost root]# rpm -i pkgconfig-0.14.0-3.i386.rpm
[root@localhost root]# rpm -i XFree86-devel-4.3.0-2.i386.rpm
- Well, at this point I tried to recursively install
lesstif-0.93.36-3.i386.rpm once again but it conflicted
with the existing lesstif-0.93.18-1 - so I gave up once
again;
- While pulling out the remaining hair, I just tried another
make within the X11 directory and ... Bingo! ...
xfbbX finally got compiled! Only God knows which one of
the packages above was/were the missing part(s). Case some of
you knows, please let me know.
- And, as they said: ... and after all that had happened, what
remained has just gone to a legend ... :-)
What remains to be explored (at least for me) is to see how to
maintain various sysop's tasks (ex. how to execute 'housekeeping'
mechanism by a mouse click or like) - from within xfbbX.
Any suggestion is welcomed (it may also be a contribution for the
next release of this mini-HOWTO, hams!).
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